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		<title>Woozle: rephrase (unexpectedly difficult point to make succinctly)</title>
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		<updated>2015-10-05T00:31:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;rephrase (unexpectedly difficult point to make succinctly)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;let save name=debate-point-summary&amp;gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;There &lt;/del&gt;are &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;court decisons which contradict this claim&lt;/del&gt;.&amp;lt;/let&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;let save name=debate-point-summary&amp;gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;The Supreme Court has ruled that some types of gun &lt;/ins&gt;are &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;not protected by the 2nd amendment&lt;/ins&gt;.&amp;lt;/let&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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		<title>Woozle: link to wikipedia article</title>
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		<updated>2015-10-05T00:26:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;link to wikipedia article&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;let save name=debate-point-details&amp;gt;In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a &amp;quot;reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia&amp;quot;. (In this specific case, [https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/307/174 the court found] that restricting ownership of &amp;quot;shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches long&amp;quot; did not violate the 2nd amendment.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;let save name=debate-point-details&amp;gt;In &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{l/wp|&lt;/ins&gt;United States v. Miller&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;}} &lt;/ins&gt;(1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a &amp;quot;reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia&amp;quot;. (In this specific case, [https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/307/174 the court found] that restricting ownership of &amp;quot;shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches long&amp;quot; did not violate the 2nd amendment.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There may be other significant cases, but I'll hold off researching them until this is challenged...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There may be other significant cases, but I'll hold off researching them until this is challenged...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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		<title>Woozle: new page from form at http://iseeamess.com/wiki/index.php?title=ICMS:Laboratory/debate/forms/response&amp;id=2399&amp;type=con</title>
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		<updated>2015-10-05T00:24:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;new page from form at http://iseeamess.com/wiki/index.php?title=ICMS:Laboratory/debate/forms/response&amp;amp;id=2399&amp;amp;type=con&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;hide&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;let save name=debate-point-summary&amp;gt;There are court decisons which contradict this claim.&amp;lt;/let&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;let save name=debate-point-parent&amp;gt;Exhibits/debate/points/Woozle/2015/10/04/201809&amp;lt;/let&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;let save name=debate-point-type&amp;gt;con&amp;lt;/let&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;let save name=debate-point-details&amp;gt;In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a &amp;quot;reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia&amp;quot;. (In this specific case, [https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/307/174 the court found] that restricting ownership of &amp;quot;shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches long&amp;quot; did not violate the 2nd amendment.)&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be other significant cases, but I'll hold off researching them until this is challenged...&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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