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* '''M9.''' The only prominent speaker, Barbara Boxer, is a Clinton proxy. | * '''M9.''' The only prominent speaker, Barbara Boxer, is a Clinton proxy. | ||
* '''M10.''' Protests from the Sanders camp were ignored/overruled. | * '''M10.''' Protests from the Sanders camp were ignored/overruled. | ||
| + | * '''M11.''' (Vox) Nevada state officials disqualified 56 Sanders-supporting delegates who had done the paperwork wrong or hadn't registered as Democrats in time. | ||
| + | * '''M12.''' (from memory of other sources) Some of those delegates had proof that they were in fact qualified, but they were not allowed the opportunity to present that proof. | ||
| + | * '''M13.''' (Vox) There is no way these events could have affected the outcome of the main Democratic primary. | ||
| + | * '''M14.''' (Vox) M13 is indisputable even by Bernie's supporters. ("Not even Sanders's most hardcore loyalists would claim that what happened on Saturday will sway the outcome of the Democratic primary.") | ||
Revision as of 18:14, 19 May 2016
Claims enumerated in this discussion:
- M1. There was a change of rules which was voted on before the announced time, when the Hillary delegates were present but the Bernie delegates were not.
- M2. In the process of that rule change, Lange called for a voice vote, heard the "Yea"s, and then passed the motion without asking for "Nay"s.
- M3. the NV committee was co-chaired by Clinton and Sanders supporters
- M4. the NV convention was equally staffed by Clinton and Sanders supporters
- M5. some of the violence was incited by a member of the Sanders Campaign
- M6. Clinton had no motive for messing with the convention, since she was already winning.
- M7. Others may have had such a motive, however.
- M8. Sanders supporters were abusive towards Barbara Boxer.
- M9. The only prominent speaker, Barbara Boxer, is a Clinton proxy.
- M10. Protests from the Sanders camp were ignored/overruled.
- M11. (Vox) Nevada state officials disqualified 56 Sanders-supporting delegates who had done the paperwork wrong or hadn't registered as Democrats in time.
- M12. (from memory of other sources) Some of those delegates had proof that they were in fact qualified, but they were not allowed the opportunity to present that proof.
- M13. (Vox) There is no way these events could have affected the outcome of the main Democratic primary.
- M14. (Vox) M13 is indisputable even by Bernie's supporters. ("Not even Sanders's most hardcore loyalists would claim that what happened on Saturday will sway the outcome of the Democratic primary.")